When defeat became imminent, he followed the new acting Elder, Nolan McNamara in the retreat to the McCullough range and Hidden Valley. Fallout: New Vegas Edit. If you're a veteran of Fallout 3, you'll be plenty familiar with a Wasteland order known as the Brotherhood of Steel. Brotherhood of Steel Quest Issue » Tue Aug 10, 2010 1:12 pm . I was working with Mr. House most of the time in the main story line and I also joined the Brotherhood of Steel earlier. The Brotherhood were all over the Capital Wasteland on the east coast, looking all sorts of threatening in their metallic Power Armor. ... Hardin is a jackass and the quest to become an initiate with McNamara is easy as fuck. If you're keeping the BoS around, you should not only support McNamara, you should also do the NCR story line up until the point where you can form a truce between the Brotherhood and them. This act earned him an enormous amount of respect and loyalty from his chapter. However, this may still not allow the courier to initiate a conversation with the Elder. He still fears the NCR and believes they are still hunting the Brotherhood, when in fact the NCR is currently overburdened fighting wars on multiple fronts and is not even looking for the Brotherhood. sex Brotherhood of steel in Fallout NV. Basically control the Brotherhood from the inside, which works out even better if you keep McNamara in charge since he's able to see reason. videogame_asset My games. *Only if the Courier overthrows McNamara. In the the aforementioned quest where you have to meet the local tribes of New Vegas, I have been trying to get the Brotherhood of Steel to follow me, but so far the only option I have is to ignore them, which I do not want to do. [The brotherhood eventually dies out!] The extended lockdown and resulting attrition of the Brotherhood's sphere of influence have caused some members of the Brotherhood to question the elder's judgment, and Head Paladin Edgar Hardin is looking for a way to usurp him. Fallout: New Vegas PlayStation 3 walkthrough and guide at GameSpy ... either choosing to side with McNamara or Hardin. Additional info Therefore since Veronica is an unarmed master like he is, he appreciates her company. Cookies help us deliver our Services. 000E2F84 ... To broker a truce, you must not have ousted Elder McNamara during the quest Still in the Dark. (/spoiler) If you want the brotherhood to live on and get the good ending let him stay. Hardin sucks. The Courier is even able to take advantage of it himself. Fallout: New Vegas. With no Elder, the Brotherhood began to follow Senior Scribe Schuler and Paladin Ramos. ref id There's cut dialogue from the game (which I added back in to mine with a mod) where with a speech check of 75/100 you can convince House to keep the Brotherhood around. He will not work with the NCR at Hoover Dam, because of their bad history, and doesnt trust outsiders at all. blow up Kimball and every single other person at the speech in just one shot. Alright, so I started New Vegas over again recently after doing my very first Legion run. They are located in the bunker (M13:1). The icon is flashing right in the middle of hidden valley but I dont know what to do. Board index ‹ Fallout ‹ Fallout: New Vegas; Change font size; Print view; FAQ; 8 posts • Page 1 of 1. Going the route of siding with Elder McNamara is far, far more complicated, but if Hardin’s your choice, consider following along in spirit; there’s no reason why you can’t pillage Vaults 11, 3 and 22 now. McNamara also seems willing to parley with the super mutants on Black Mountain based on one of the holotapes.] Games. ... To broker a truce, you must not have ousted Elder McNamara during the quest Still in the Dark. Published: Jan 19, 2010. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. Info Guide. How do i oust Elder McNamara in Fallout New Vegas? Then I'll head back West. Conflict is inevitable, may as well crush the brotherhood before they have a chance to recover. The Brotherhood were all over the Capital Wasteland on the east coast, looking all sorts of threatening in their metallic Power Armor. He, under the appropriate circumstances, will even support the NCR. If you want to get all this done with as quickly as possible, side with Hardin. Hardin doesn't "officially" become Elder until the Courier returns to the bunker." Fallout: New Vegas Wiki Guide. I don't know whether this will ever be acknowledged but simply I want to be able to resolve the conflict between the NCR and the Brotherhood of Steel peacefully with Hardin in charge. Nolan McNamara He assumed command of the Mojave chapter, and the rank of elder, when Father Elijahvanished during the battle. Gives paladin Ramos the chrome T-60 amour and Elder McNamara the c-BN amour. After completing the quest Still in the Dark, return to either Nolan McNamara or Edgar Hardin, depending on who is now Elder. ↑ 55.0 55.1 Fallout: New Vegas Official Game Guide Collector's Edition p.43: Going to wipe the slate clean. i did the quest to overthrow elder Mcnamara but even after waiting 10+ days he still only says "i am being accused by hardin so i must prepare a defense. McNamara's quest line is the insanely long and kind of difficult one. affiliation So now that I am doing one, I've reached a bit of a dilemma. ... (Destroy Brotherhood of Steel, Well I don't have nearly close to 100 Science to even take a chance ... You need to go level L2 of the bunker, where you can find Elder McNamara, Head Paladin Hardin (Or Head Paladin Ramos based on your choices) and Head Scribe Taggart. After joining the BoS, Hardin addresses the courier as "brother" not outsider. It's probably best only to use this fix if neither McNamara or Hardin are not becoming Elder after 3 … base SPECIAL Intimately their differences in terms of the Brotherhood is basically just them interpreting the Codex differently, and weighing parts of it with more or less importance. Hit Points:135Dam. At this point both McNamara and Hardin’s ambitions have the same pre-requisite; obtaining the holotapes from the missing Brotherhood patrols. LeaderSoldier (formerly)Engineer (optional) Fallout: New Vegas Brotherhood of Steel characters, Brotherhood of Steel characters (Mojave Wasteland), https://fallout.fandom.com/wiki/Nolan_McNamara?oldid=3326512, If Elder McNamara is overthrown, he will be demoted to knight and can be found working in the knight's workshop, wearing a suit of. Fallout: New Vegas character He is credited with saving the Mojave chapter from complete eradication. Located southeast of Sloan, the Hidden Valley has four bunkers, one being the Brotherhood of Steel. Starting off with the gameplay, if you want to side with the NCR and spare the Brotherhood of Steel, McNamara is the guy you want, as he will attempt to negotiate the the NCR. NOTE: You may have to wait 3 days or so after exiting the bunker complex before re-entering will work. He was one of the key advisors of Elder Elijah and attempted to convince the Elder to abandon Helios One. SOLUTION 1. Hardin is the Head Paladin of the Mojave chapter and its most experienced veteran. Games. Protip - if you want the conflict to end peacefully, keep the other guy as Elder. Once you reach this point, exit the entire bunker complex then re-enter the bunker and talk with McNamara again. Elder McNamara was once Paladin McNamara. You can complete Hardin's in less than an hour, without having to leave the bunker. Addendum: Please don't tell me to read Vault Wiki, I have, it's just not really clear about the positive and negative ramifications of both options. Trophies. Unique DLs-- Total DLs-- Total views. close. or become a better elder. I would disagree with you on that. Ask Question Asked 4 years, 2 months ago. What faction can I continue with that will not want to destroy the Brotherhood of Steel? However, after talking to Hardin and beginning the process of overthrowing McNamara, simply don't go back to the bunker until after speaking to Moore about the Brotherhood. The whole reason she wants to leave the BOS near the end of her companion quest is because of McNamara being so stubborn, so wouldn't she prefer Hardin's route of pretty much ending the lockdown right then and there? Gameplay Fallout: New Vegas overthrowing the brotherhood of steel elder question? Hnh. He fought against the NCR at HELIOS One in the failed Operation: Sunburst and broke through the NCR lines to lead the surviving Brotherhood forces to safety. While the Brotherhood was originally apathetic to the NCR, they were opposed to the Enclave and sided with the NCR as a means of pushing the Enclave out of both New California and the Mojave Wasteland entirely. Energy Weap. I was working with Mr. House most of the time in the main story line and I also joined the Brotherhood of Steel earlier. 1.0. The enactment of the lockdown and the strain it put on the Brotherhood's resources affecte… There's a severe lack of Brotherhood of Steel in New Vegas… Looks like you're using new Reddit on an old browser. Intimately their differences in terms of the Brotherhood is basically just them interpreting the Codex differently, and weighing parts of it with more or less importance. If McNamara remains Elder, wait 24 hours outside of the bunker for the lockdown to be lifted, then talk to him. I have done the quest required of me for them. I've read is possible to have McNamara stepped down and Hardin as Elder and still get the truce with NCR, but the way the wiki puts it is misleading and confusing. If you want an excuse to explore many more areas and perhaps want to effect some reconciliation between the Brotherhood of Steel and the NCR, side with McNamara. Im at the part where I have to destroy their bunker. That use them as weak/cowards Brotherhood, McNamara, my Courier is very attached... 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